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Ron Bryson's avatar

This is very concerning for a leader of the Scottish assembly. Giving 400K to a possible pro Hamas organisation is just awful. Funding of this value should go to charities relating homeless, children’s. Yousaf has to be exposed but will this article find its way to the msm? It was touched on by GB News yesterday but only about an ex Hamas leader living in an ex council house in a London Jewish community.

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John Melone's avatar

Deflection. It's a simple question, do you support the plan? Israel knows the situation in Egypt and considers the 24hr timeline sufficient. Do you support it?

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Dean M Thomson's avatar

No, I have never found a 24hr time limit to evacuate Gaza City sufficient - but then the Israeli government didn't set a 24hr time limit, and more time than that has passed.

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John Melone's avatar

Many sources including the UN claim they have set a 24hr deadline. We have to assume that attacks on civilians will commence now that it has passed..

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Dean M Thomson's avatar

I thought you were referring to the October 13 alleged 24 hour deadline

(see: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12626255/Israel-orders-EVACUATION-1-1M-people-Northern-Gaza-24-hours-says.html)

Which obviously wasn't a 24 hour deadline, merely a well-in-advance warning to civilians to leave the future warzone. Which Israel was correct to do. Where I agree with you, it's grossly insufficient to simply say 'leave' when Egypt is keeping its Rafah crossing closed.

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A R's avatar

This is all pretty disingenuous. The reason the Israel flag wasn’t raised was because although what happened there was truly appalling and unforgivable, they were quite clearly only days away from slaughtering thousands of innocent people.

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Dean M Thomson's avatar

Which facts outlined above are inaccurate? For something to be disingenuous, it has to be lacking candour or lacking knowledge of the subject matter. I've made a point of including extensive linking to sources so people can check everything for themselves. I didn't write this lightly.

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A R's avatar

Here’s just a few examples of lack of candour. You say Yousaf was “heavily criticised” but all you can rustle up as part of your “extensive” sourcing is a daily express article quoting one of the most discredited political operators of recent times, without mentioning the plaudits he’s been given for urging restraint in Israel’s response (unlike other British leaders I could mention). You say the Greens’ antisemitism has been “exposed” but your source for this turns out to be an article written by yourself which disingenuously equates criticism of Israel to antisemitism. You drew an intellectually dishonest parallel between Israel and Ukraine which is defending itself without slaughtering thousands of civilians, and has no long standing history of breaching UN resolutions

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Dean M Thomson's avatar

AR, the Greens refuse to recognise Hamas as a terrorist organisation and in the two days of the massacre in Israel they immediately engage in blaming the Jewish people for bringing on their own suffering (oldest of anti-Semitic tropes). Chapman literally tweeted the 1,400 dead Jews was "a consequence" of Israeli "occupation". It's no different from the Germans in the 1940s, as Jews were being shoved onto cattle cars shrugging shoulders and saying "Well, they did undermine the German economy" If you can't see the parallel I'd suggest you have a blind spot here.

As for the "heavily criticised", since you didn't like my linking to Nick Timothy and Stephen Kerr, how about the plethora of evidence on the social media condemnation and Jackson Carlaw too?

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/11343456/humza-yousaf-slammed-hamas-attack-tweet/

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John Melone's avatar

Yousaf comments will get support north a south of the border. We want solutions not unequivocal political posturing. I wonder Dean if you share Grant Shapps support of Israels 24hr Gaza evacuation plan?

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Dean M Thomson's avatar

I would strongly support any coordinated - credible - plan to evacuate civilians ahead of a likely brutal urban fight.

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John Melone's avatar

So you would disagree with Israels plan and the wests unequivocal support of it?

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Dean M Thomson's avatar

I think Egypt needs to do far more if a meaningful humanitarian evacuation is to happen. I welcome the Egyptian government opening the crossing to let aid trucks into Southern Gaza, it's a start but Cairo needs to do far more. As for Israel, I think it'd help their goals more if Jerusalem made more of a public effort to secure Egyptian aid for Palestinians fleeing to southern Gaza. But in all likelihood they are probably already doing this behind the scenes.

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